New Podcast ‘Femme4Femme’ Is Part Education, Part Comedy, And Totally Gay

When it comes to sharing her life online, this isn’t Jessica Torres’s first rodeo. For more than a decade, Torres has been creating fashion and beauty content in just about every sphere, from her viral social media presence to her sold-out collection with designer Tamara Malas, to her popular Substack, All Things Fat. But Femme4Femme, her upcoming podcast with costume designer and stylist Luna Lopez, is a different beast. 

Femme4Femme is Torres’s first professional venture with Lopez, her girlfriend of nearly six years. While both women are veterans of the entertainment industry in their own right, they tell GO they’ve never done anything like this podcast. It’s part comedy, part history, and puts the couple front and center in a new way. Femme4Femme is a love letter to the lesbian experience told by two people who are also in love with each other. They hope it’s also wildly entertaining. 

This is Torres’s second turn as a podcast host after The Fat Girls Club, which she co-hosted with best friend Liesl Binx from 2018 to 2021. Four years after ending The Fat Girls Club, Torres found herself missing the format. But where her last venture had centered her identity as a plus-sized fashion influencer, she was now eager to discuss another part of her life: her identity as a lesbian.

At first, Lopez suggested that her girlfriend launch a solo venture and invite weekly guests. “That sounded fun,” says Torres, “but I liked the idea of having someone to riff off of, joke around, have fun with.” Who better than her life partner? 

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“Our conversations are already so goofy,” says Lopez. Torres had a hunch their dynamic would transfer well to the podcast format. She was right; it’s incredibly entertaining just to watch the couple talk to each other. During our interview, the conversation bounces rapidly between Torres and Lopez, who finish each other’s thoughts, tell each other’s anecdotes, and crack each other up with inside jokes. “We get along so well, and we talk sh*t all the time about everything,” says Torres. 

Still, after years of working behind the scenes, Lopez was initially hesitant to take a role in front of the mic. “I predominantly do costume design for film and TV, so I’m usually not even on set. This is all very new for me,” she tells GO. “But I know that Jess is great at producing. I thought, even if it goes wrong, it will never really go wrong, because it’s just a diary of us talking.” 

The couple has another huge goal in mind for Femme4Femme: putting a spotlight on lesbian culture. “I came out later in life, when I was 27,” says Torres. “Before that, I just thought everyone was gay. Luna is my first serious relationship, and we both feel a little bit outside of gay culture.” 

Lopez agrees. “I’m from Miami, and while there’s a lot of gay culture, it’s predominantly gay male culture,” she explains. “That’s fab, but for me, as a lesbian, even though I came out at 18, lesbian culture is still something I don’t know very much about.” 

With Femme4Femme, Lopez and Torres are setting out to change that, not just for themselves, but for their listeners. “Let’s learn,” says Lopez, “and other people who may not have this knowledge, they can learn with us.” 

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The plan for Femme4Femme is twofold. First and foremost, it’s about their experiences as lesbians, told firsthand through fun, funny, unfiltered conversations. But each episode is also a history lesson. In honor of their shared fashion background, the pair plan to do a deep dive into the history of lesbian fashion. Because Luna is a history nerd, they also want to launch a segment on under-discussed lesbian icons. 

“Are you familiar with Abuelita chocolate?” Torres asks, sharing one of her many ideas for future podcast episodes. “The old lady in the logo was a lesbian,” she says, referencing Mexican actress Sara García. “I want to tell her story.” Other potential episodes: investigating how lavender came to represent the lesbian community, why carabiners became a lesbian staple, and whether the stereotype that gay men and lesbians don’t get along holds water. 

“We want it to be educational,” Torres adds, “and at the same time, we want it to be us just goofing around and having fun.” 

Lopez and Torres hope to officially launch Femme4Femme at the end of this month, no later than early May. Until then, they’re deep into prep work, which has mostly meant listening to other podcasts—a lot of them—to find what Torres calls their “perfect Frankenstein style.”

“With Trixie and Katya [of The Bald and the Beautiful], it’s their banter,” Lopez says, starting at the top of the couple’s long list of inspirations. “With Karen and Georgia from My Favorite Murder, I love the way they tell each other stories.” 

“And Caleb Hearon from So True!” Torres interjects. “I love the way he just never stops the bit. He keeps everything really funny and light.” She also loves My Favorite Murder. “I love how they’ve evolved. It started nine years ago, and even the way we think has changed since then. They’ve been able to own up to that. That makes me feel safe and comfortable to be who I am and know that I’m not perfect, and that if I end up offending someone, I can own it with sincerity and from an angle of learning. Because I think we all want to learn and be better than who we were before.” 

That’s the goal with Femme4Femme, Lopez tells GO. “It’s an education for us as much as our audience. We want to learn more about lesbianism and share it with the people. I just don’t think there’s much content out there.” 

While they’ll be focusing primarily on lesbian subjects, the couple are also hoping to incorporate queer culture on a broader scale. “It’s really for the entire LGBTQ+ community,” Lopez says, “because we’re a part of it. We just want to enrich the culture in general.” 

Also on the couple’s listening list: Cutting Room Floor with Recho Omondi, Drew Afualo’s The Comments Section, Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, and the paranormal storytelling podcast Spooked. 

“I think you can tell from our likes that Luna loves to learn, and I just want to entertain,” says Torres. “I think that’s what you’re gonna see in Femme4Femme. It’s gonna be a good combination of our interests coming together: being silly and learning at the same time.” 

The first episode of Femme4Femme is expected to launch at the end of April.